Tell me about the barbecues?
AS: I got fucking wasted (a lot of off-record adult substance talk :]). The first time we went to the barbecue we were serving drinks, I'm a bartender back home in Boston; anyway, we made all kinds of shit.

I’ve been to Warp for five years and have never been to a barbecue.
AS: We’ll take you to a barbecue.

Last year’s Warped Tour really brought some big names in and nobody really hung out at the smaller stages. This year they have a few big names but not many, do you think that is something they learned from the previous year?
Duggan: I think that maybe the case but also at the same time the bands that were drawing the people were more commercial and more accessible than the bands that weren’t. Actually the bands that weren’t ended up becoming successful like My Chemical Romance. Now they have not only went beyond but fucking over. Just my opinion which nobody listens to.
AS: I usually do.
Duggan: I don’t like shitty music. A lot of this pussy watered down emo shit or what they call punk rock nowadays just don’t cut it for me. When I was growing up, granted I’m young, but Warped Tour meant something. You got to see some West Coast bands on the East Coast, some of your favorites that you never seen before. Now it’s this emo bullshit, "I’m gonna cry, I’m gonna scream fucking lyrics." The thing is, music is not what it was back then and I think music has lost a lot of its power. Punk rock is not dangerous anymore. Emo has become the new punk rock which means everything is fucking watered down and bullshit; but that’s me. I’m sorry if someone doesn’t like my comments but that’s me. What I’m saying is that Warped Tour is not the same. This is not going to be the best Warped Tour of all time, but we’re going to be on it and we’re going to do the best we can to make it like that for everybody. I’m going to make sure everybody has the time of their life.
AS: When I listen to old school that’s what I want. I’m gonna kill everybody, that’s what I like. I want danger back in punk rock; that’s what needs to be back in punk rock. Goth Punk and whatever fucking labels that weren’t fucking labels before but to me music is just fucking music. Here’s a prime example. Spittlefield, we went into that tour and we were like what the fuck is this shit?
Duggan: I’m just a little Irish dude from Boston. My dad’s a Boston cop, my grandfather was a cop. I drank a bottle of whiskey a night. When we left that Spittlefield show, that last night, I cried like a Goddamn woman. I had tears pouring down my face. It was like finding brothers that you didn’t even know you had. You know when you find somebody that is right with you. It’s so hard making friends in a band. You work your ass off and tour as much as possible. I moved into a place like four or five months ago and I’ve been in the place 2 weeks out of that 4 or 5 months. Anyway, what I’m saying is that when I’m home I don’t have time to make friends and that’s sad. You meet all these people, you don’t even make friends, you honestly make brothers. Everybody is for the same cause and everybody is just trying to have the time of their life for that moment. That’s the most important thing. We embodied that. We did drugs together. We did drugs that we haven’t even tried before. I did acid and we were hanging from the ceiling one night in a fucking Christian club. Unbelievable. One of the best times of my life.

So, you talk about this watered down emo crap. Does it make it bad music if the emo band is honest and that is what they feel?
Duggan: No, when I say that, it’s just my taste. There is some stuff that I like, like Save the Day. I love that fucking record.

You can look at Good Charlotte. I don’t really get them, but last year they had a lot of 13-year-old kids that love them. And to those kids that was punk to them. Rebelling against their parents, who were standing 100 feet away waiting to drive them home.
Duggan: I know exactly what you mean. I met them on Warped Tour. I’m going to be honest, because I’m honest. I’ve seen them be dickheads to fans, but to me those guys are solid dudes. To me, they have always been nice, always been kind. I love those guys. I’ve told them before I’m not really into their music, it’s just not my thing, but I respect it. Hey, if you want to go make some money that’s how you do it. You know you write songs about boyfriends and girlfriends breaking up and that’s what they do.
AS: You know we met those guys on Warped Tour 2001 and we were like, "What the fuck?" But they are good dudes and they know the crowd they play. I will always back those guys up but that shit is not punk rock.

Is it bad if Brittany Spears wears a Ramone shirt? Is it bad if punk rock becomes commercial?
Duggan: That’s the same thing as the good Charlotte question. Yeah, it sucks. That falls into the same category, but at the same time, it’s a safe road to travel because the Ramones, Joey died, Dee Dee died then Johnny passes. It’s so safe to say I was a Ramones fan. But are they really?
AS: How many songs from the Ramones do you think Brittany Spears knows?
Duggan: None of them. Not a Goddamn one of them. Maybe "I Want to Be Sedated" and "Rock and Roll High School." Those are the two songs she knows. Because they became so commercial.